Complexity in Systems Approach

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Paul Tonks
Manager, United Kingdom

Complexity in Systems Approach

Complexity exists due to a multitude of worldviews held by organisational members and external stakeholders and the cultural influences, individual experiences and organisational makeup i.e. rituals, myths, procedures etc., each affect the overall considerations of any decisions managers take.
Part of the systems approach is to construct conceptual models of how the organisation 'should work' (in the ideal world) and then compare these models with 'what really happens'.

  Peter Bond, United Kingdom
 

Complexity in Systems Approach

Paul, you're correct about the systems approach modelling 'as is' and then 'as should be' is standard. However, complexity exists due to the presence of nonlinear dynamic relations somewhere. My view, especially if we are promoting a systems approach to performance improvement, is that the term 'complexity' should refer to these type of systems. Human social systems are complex, even if they consist of just two people, but not for the reasons you suggest.

  Paul Tonks
Manager, United Kingdom
 

Complexity in Systems Practice

@Peter Bond: It is not the systems methodology that is complex; it is the nature of the issues we are exploring (using s...

  Ivan Kohlinsky
Management Consultant, United Kingdom
 

Complexity in Systems Approach

From practice and application to me it is precisely the holistic systems approach that is meant to cut through complexit...

  Daniel J. McElroy
United States
 

Poor / no Understanding of Complexity by Managers

Russell Ackoff said managers do not understand their current mode of thought or understand complexity or their own syste...

  Ivan Kohlinsky
Management Consultant, United Kingdom
 

Complexity in Systems Approach

I always have to remind myself that I am part of the system as I'm forming my view or doing my work. It is impossible t...

 

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