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Paul Tonks, Manager, United Kingdom
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Complexity exists due to a multitude of worldviews held by organisational members and external stakeholders and the cultural influences, individual experiences and organisational makeup i.e. rituals, myths, procedures etc., each affect the overall considerations of any decisions managers take.
Part of the systems approach is to construct conceptual models of how the organisation 'should work' (in the ideal world) and then compare these models with 'what really happens'. (...) Read more? Sign up for free
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Peter Bond, Management Consultant, United Kingdom
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Complexity in Systems Approach
Paul, you're correct about the systems approach modelling 'as is' and then 'as should be' is standard. However, complexity exists due to the presence of nonlinear dynamic relations somewhere. My view, especially if we are promoting a systems approach to performance improvement, is that the term 'complexity' should refer to these type of systems. Human social systems are complex, even if they consist of just two people, but not for the reasons you suggest.
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Paul Tonks, Manager, United Kingdom
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Complexity in Systems Practice
@: Peter, you are taking my comments out of contex (...)
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Ivan Kohlinsky, Management Consultant, United Kingdom
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Complexity in Systems Approach
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Daniel J. McElroy, United States
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Ivan Kohlinsky, Management Consultant, United Kingdom
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Complexity in Systems Approach
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