Does Management by Objectives Work in a Church?

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Does Management by Objectives Work in a Church?
Muliathy Briany, Student (University), Indonesia

I find a lot of problems in church as a pure non profit organization. There is no a clear vision. There are not measurable objectives.
How can I implement MBO in church?

MBO in Church
Jaap de Jonge, Editor, Netherlands
WHY do you want to to implement MBO in a church?

Is is Possible?
Muliathy Briany, Student (University), Indonesia
I think MBO can be implemented in a non-profit organization like church. If I'm not wrong, Drucker's background is from church. I am sorry if this is not right. Give me a explanation.
And I realize non profit needs management too to make grow well.

Why You Want to Use MBO?
Jaap de Jonge, Editor, Netherlands
Just be careful to ask if a tool can also be used for another situation or application than what is was designed for. Management methods are only valid within their assumptions. If you go outside of that you entering the quicksand.

Does MBO Work in Church
Nicholas Kiruma, Student (University), Kenya
I think it is high time MBO principles were applied to non profits like in church for optimal functioning by developing strategic plans and objectives. Or else they risk doing things the same old way and getting the same results.

MBO in Social Institutions
ahmed mahmoud ahmed abdo, ex-lecturer at the faculty of commerce Banha University, Egypt
Yes, M.B O. can be applied in church and all other social institutions because in brief it is centered around specifying goals entrusted to individuals to carry out regardless whether for profit or not.

MBO in a Church
jeff mitchell, Career Consultant, United Kingdom
It depends on how you are defining "church". If it is church in the broad sense of the religion then you can't, but when you redefine the problem into how to implement MBO in the running of church activities. That way it becomes the same as any other organization about finances, property maintenance, functions, and marketing etc. Hope that helps. Regs, Jeff.

MBO in a Church - Objective or Outcome
Stuart Bell, Business Consultant, Australia
A small change in words a massive change in focus. Define the outcomes you want - size of congregation, growth rate, family engagement/interaction, finances, geographic engagement etc. As you define these you will automatically ask - is this consistent with what we want to achieve.
Don't over complicate or assume this is an environment where personal drivers make big impacts and never assume you know why someone will or won't do what you expect - it goes to their core values.
Good luck, may the force be with you!

MBO in a Church
jeff mitchell, Career Consultant, United Kingdom
I agree with Stuart about not over complicating things. Breaking it up into smaller achievable chunks helps to define the problem and objective which can be tackled and does give you remarkable clarity about the steps to take.
Just making a start on a small objective will lead to further developments and then things will start to become self evident.


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